"They were all like, 'Yeah, this is fine. "By the time the Batman bladder thing made it to the page, it had been vetted by a bunch of people who had been doing this for years, and not one of them was like, 'Oh my God! We're going to shake things up with this!'" Smith told CBR. The Dogma director drew the ire of some critics for rewriting a legendary scene from Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, revealing that the Dark Knight suffered a 'bladder spasm' when he confronted Gotham's corrupt elite.
I'm just trying to find out the other side of the coin, learn what a non-biased consensus of Kevin Smith's dive into Batman, actually is.Kevin Smith has discussed the controversy surrounding his Batman: The Widening Gyre title. Personally, I really enjoyed Cacophany and while I didn't find The Widening Gyre as interesting and a little bit boring at times, I thought it was still a very good read. It may not follow the guidelines set by other major writers in Batman's lifespan but that's what makes it unique. My next question is: Why is it such a bad thing that Kevin Smith's writing style is apparent in these stories? Of course it's going to show some Kevin Smith's personal style and to try and say that he shouldn't have used his own style is taking away his creativity. And as for Batman wetting himself, personally I thought that was a good way to humanize him but most reviews appall it. Personally, I thought that they were portrayed well, not great, but not horrible either. Catwoman and Ivy I know more about but wouldn't say that I'm an expert. Now I don't know much about Silver because I've not read any of the comics with her in it, so I can't really say anything towards that. So my first question is quite simply: What is so wrong with these two stories? After reading some reviews, the best explanations I've seen come down to three main things Silver's relationship with Bruce, Catwoman and Ivy's appearance, and Batman's story of him wetting himself during Year One.
But after reading both "Cacophany" and "The Widening Gyre" I noticed a lot of conflicting reviews about both of them and mostly Kevin Smith's involvement. That being said, I don't know some of the more deeply rooted "laws" that the Batman lore has. I have read some of the more well known Batman graphic novels and TPBs such as The Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, and The Killing Joke to name a few. So first of all, I'm very new to Batman and really comic books/graphic novels in general.
I had a few questions about "Batman - The Widening Gyre" and the 'controversy' around it that I hope the fine people of r/comicbooks could help answer. Hi there, I'd like to first point out that if this question is better suited somewhere else, or doesn't belong here, please let me know.
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